This is not truly a legal question and few attorneys will have the information that you are seeking. You may want to counsel with some social services agencies or even some employment placement agencies. You can contact State employment staff, too.
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Penal Code 1203.4 is not a true expungement, as you already know. It is post-conviction relief from some of the disabilities of a conviction.
The section says, "[T]he order does not relieve him or her of the obligation to disclose the conviction in response to any direct question contained in any questionnaire or application for public office, for licensure by any state or local agency, or for contracting with the California State Lottery Commission."
The term "public office" may be broad enough to include most, if not all, state jobs. See California Government Code § 82048. Other sections distinguish "elective office." Government Code § 82023.
Read all applications carefully. If it says you don't have to disclose convictions dismissed under 1203.4, then leave them off the application. When in doubt, it's safer to disclose, with a notation that it was dismissed under 1203.4.
Please understand that this is a general discussion of legal principles by a California lawyer and does not create an attorney/client relationship. It's impossible to give detailed, accurate advice based on a few sentences on a website (and you shouldn't provide too much specific information about your legal matter on a public forum like this site, anyway). You should always seek advice from an attorney licensed in your jurisdiction who can give you an informed opinion after reviewing all of the relevant information.
My colleagues are correct. It is impossible for any attorney to fully respond to this question.
ANDREW ROBERTS CRIMINAL AND TRAFFIC TICKET DEFENSE ATTORNEY
I agree with Mr. Marshall above. Penal Code section 1203.4 allows you to avoid disclosure in any private employment job application. But most State or Federal government jobs are not subject to this, as Mr. Marshall pointed out. Because background checks will reveal the conviction, it is likely better to fully disclose any convictions if applying for government employment. However, I do not know of any State positions that are exempt from the requirements under Penal Code section 1203.4, so you may want to do more research into the issue or inquire the employer about this issue.
I am in agreement with Mr. Mazzoni and always advise my clients to fully disclose their convictions to any state or local government jobs especially those that require one to apply for a license. This applies to the local handyman, general contractor to someone seeking an auto dealer license. I have literally had situations where my client's are tentative hires with the state but their would be future supervisor would advise them to seek relief under Penal Code Section 1203.4 so as to assist in the hiring process, just some feedback that I have received.
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