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Of what value is a Power of Attorney? I thought that the document empowered the Att.-in-Fact to act in the stead of the grantor

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An attorney-in-fact need not be an lawyer. In such an instance the Att.-in-Fact may not offer legal advice or in any manner represent himself as such. However in any proceeding such as a litigation court appearance to which the grantor is permitted to speak for herself the Att.-in-Fact may appear and speak for the grantor.
OR UPAA: "Other grants of general authority include the authority of an agent to manage the principal’s estate, trusts, and other beneficial interests, to litigate or defend matters on behalf of the principal, " Her ex has intimidated & bullied her from the start. My wife granted me full PofA to avoid further manipulations. Her ex & his lawyer have soundly insisted that they will meet only with her alone or her lawyer. By hiring a lawyer our costs exceed the award.

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The difference between an attorney-in-fact and an attorney-at-law is that an attorney-in-fact can do things for the principal, as you point out, but cannot practice law, unless the attorney-in-fact is also an attorney-at-law. It is still necessary to earn a doctorate, sit the Bar exam, and get a license from the State in order to practice law.

An attorney-in-fact could hire an attorney-at-law to go to court on behalf of the principal, but it is not possible for a principal to grant another person who is not a lawyer a law license. The state gets all upset when people try to do that. Actually, it is a crime.

Lots of attorneys will do unbundled work - in other words, you can hire an attorney for a brief project and not have to spend thousands of dollars paying them $20.00 to pick up the phone for the rest of this lawsuit.

Elizabeth Powell

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Its really unclear in WA state whether you can as an attorney-in-fact, but you do have one definite alternative.

Since this is your wife. Under RCW 4.08.040 you can actually join the cause of action and act for your wife, not as an attorney-in-fact, but as a married couple for whom you are the spokesperson. She may still have to sign her name on any settlement agreements and appear in court, but as a joint party, you can still take the lead.

Back to whether an attorney-in-fact can act as pro-se for a principal; whether you could act as an attorney-in-fact is unclear in WA law. Other states do explicitly allow attorneys-in-fact to act on behalf of principals if a copy of the Power of Attorney is on record and the principal signs an affidavit agreeing to allow the Power of Attorney to stand for court proceedings.

However, Washington law (as far as I can tell) has not included anything in the RCWs or case law allowing, or restricting attorneys in fact to appear for the principal. So... its a gamble. You may end up being the guinea pig in Washington state, which is a risk. And if the award isn't big enough, probably not worth it. But since you can join the action, it may not matter.

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