I would like to know which of the above is the best way to manage the accounts now and when they become my beneficiaries.
This is a loaded question and really depends on looking at the complete estate planning picture. The retirement accounts are not great candidates to be placed in trust as their are some complicated income tax implications. You need to have a comprehensive estate plan established to know what is best for you. For more on this process please read my legal guide entitled Estate Planning Mistakes: 5 Not So Easy Pieces at http://www.sjfpc.com/estate_planning_drafting_wills_trusts.html. After you read this you may gain an understanding of what is involved in this process.
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I agree with Attorney Fromm on this. You need to have qualified tax counsel advise you as to what is the best option, here. For many retirement assets, naming a trust eliminates the options many beneficiaries might have to further defer income taxes in relation to these assets. Bank accounts are less of an issue. Either way, you avoid the need for probate when a beneficiary is named on these assets.
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I agree with both attorneys who have answered this question that you need to consult with an attorney before naming the trust (or a subtrust thereunder) as the beneficiary of your retirement plans. It may be appropriate to name the trust or you may want to specify individuals or charities as beneficiary. An attorney can discuss your goals with you and let you know the pros and cons of each approach to achieving those goals.
I read your question as also asking if you should transfer your retirement accounts to your trust (the way you do with your other assets). If this was also what you were asking, the answer is NO. During your lifetime, you should NOT transfer the retirement plans themselves to your trust. Doing so can have adverse tax consequences to you.
You need to consult with an attorney. If you decide to name your trust as a beneficiary, the way that is done and the way the trust is drafted have consequences to your beneficiaries that can be dramatically different based on the language of the trust and the language of the beneficiary designation. This is NOT a " do it yourself" project!
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