Hubbys father died oct 2010 and then husband died June 2011. We never got the money officially. Hubby had 16K in credit card debt i didnt know about at all. I do not plan on paying it. Father's estate planner moved the money to my hubbys estate - STILL AN IRA - i had to create a small estate in order to get the money moved (5K) - i am the executor.
Do i need to pay the creditor - or since its an ira am i protected?
I am not named as a beneficiary for this money -- since he inheirited it.
Divorce / Separation Lawyer
Without seeing the fathers and your husbands estate documentation it is difficult to formulate an answer to this question. Please consult with a probate attorney in your area, and bring all documentation for both estates with you. Best of Luck.
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I agree with the answer provided by the other attorney. You should meet with a probate attorney to review the respective documents. If your husband's estate is the beneficiary of his retirement account, the funds will be included in his probate estate and subject to his creditors. There also are income tax consequences as a result of your husband's retirement account funds being paid to his estate.
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If the estate is recipient of the IRA monies it becomes part of the probate estate and is subject to the claims of creditors. It basically losses its usual exemption from creditor claims. You need to pay creditors with the IRA money. Remember that debts must be paid before any beneficiaries of the estate, so if the estate is insolvent no beneficiaries get an inheritance.
For an example of which debts need to paid and in what priority please see my article entitled Pennsylvania Probate: What Debts Take Priority at the following link: http://www.sjfpc.com/PA_Probate_Law_Section_3392_Estate_Debt_Priorities.html. Although this relates to PA law, in most states this is what needs to be done before beneficiaries can be paid.
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The income tax issues involving the IRA are interesting, but the threshold question is whether those credit card companies will follow the rules that protect estate beneficiaries. Often, they don't file the necessary papers in the proper courts, within the required time frame. For links to the current laws, and new laws that take effect April 1, 2012, click here:
A visit with a Massachusetts Probate attorney will help you protect your interests.
John L. Roberts
Elder Law, Estate Planning, Probate and Disability Law