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California "Expungement" ramifications regarding criminal background checks and state licensing?

Sacramento, CA |
This video describes California expungement. Specifically, from 1:40-2:15 on the video, is what she is saying accurate? For example, if you go into Nursing, I realize you must disclose EVERY conviction when taking the state test for a license. However, if you've overcome that obstacle and you are granted a license, is it true when going to apply for jobs at hospitals that you no longer need to disclose your expunged crimes? Also, if you do in fact have to disclose those crimes, is it true they CANNOT discriminate against you due to the crime being expunged and employers only allowed to discriminate based on CONVICTIONS?

Also, for places that use Live Scan, even if your EXPUNGED criminal record shows up, they still CANNOT discriminate against you for something that is dismissed via P.C. 1203.4 correct?

Attorney Answers 6

  1. California "expungement" is pursuant to PC 1203.4. The case is dismissed but the record is not deleted. I'm not familiar with which background check services most hospitals are using, but there is a good chance that the hospital will be aware of the criminal charges. I would also imagine that many hospitals will consider the fact that you were licensed after the event to be a good thing. Technically, most private employers can't use non-convictions against you, but it's unclear how effective this is in practice, when employers' background checks often show arrests and "expunged" cases.


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  2. A 1203.4 dismissal (which is not an expungment) will follow you around in your application for nursing jobs. If you don't understand why reread the statute or seek a consultation with an attorney.

  3. These are good questions for a labor / employment / licensing attorney. Good luck.
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  4. I disagree with most of her video. If you want to know what a petition filed pursuant to Penal Code section 1203.4, will do, I suggest you take it form the horse's mouth. See:

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  5. Consumers and applicants for employment typically do not initially grasp that there can be a significant difference between (1) an arrest and (2) objectionable conduct, which may underlie an arrest.

    Imagine if your last employer told a prospective employer that you embezzled from your previous place of employment. Imagine further that you were arrested for that embezzlement, but that a bad search or bad interrogation caused the prosecutor to decide not to bring charges in court. Surely you can understand that the prospective employer will refuse you a position of employment -- not because of the arrest without conviction -- no one cares about that -- but because of the conduct reported against you.

    An arrest that does not result in conviction does not insulate you from rejection (as you call it, "discrimination") based on your conduct or allegations about your conduct. An arrest not resulting on conviction cannot make you bulletproof for the underlying actions.

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  6. Ms. McCall and Mr. Kaman have responded in full to your question. Expungments arenot erasers to your life or record for all purposes.

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